Meriam Nagel: 00:05:23 You mean stationed in the Fort? Meriam Nagel: 00:05:13 No, this was, I was too young then to see that, too.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:05:18 Were there any soldiers in and around the Fort at that time? And there was a little crevice in the hillside there, and he stood the guns up in there and filled them with dynamite or what have you, and blasted them apart and then took the pieces off to sell.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:05:11 Did you actually see him move any guns or. I think they said his name was White, and he carted the guns down to the what is now Crissy Field. And my understanding is that the guns were sold for salvage to some man. And they were taken down sometime between, well I'll say I'm remembering possibly from 1910 on, between 1910 and World War I. Meriam Nagel: 00:04:13 There was guns on top of the Fort. And can you tell us about some of the things around the Fort? And can you recall about the condition of the light and some of the things on top of the building, if we had cannon in the Fort at that time. Then I went to schools in the country near the stations where my father was employed with the Associated Oil Company, various pumping stations.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:03:54 Now, when you lived in the houses there or house, your grandfather then was the lighthouse keeper. Meriam Nagel: 00:03:40 I did go to school. I lived with my other grandparents up at Arguello Boulevard Gate in the Presidio, and I went to the Madison School right down the hill.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:03:39 So you did go to school?

I did go for one year, but I did not live with the family at Fort Point. Meriam Nagel: 00:03:20 Well, I'm making a mistake there.

Meriam Nagel: 00:03:15 I didn't go to school.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:03:18 You didn't go to school? How'd you get by with that? Nagel, where did you go to school when you were living there? I'm Charlie Hawkins, park technician for the Fort Point National Historic site, and a longtime friend of Ms. And then prior to that he was aboard the USS Hassler Coast Geodetic Survey, making a survey of the West Coast.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:03:00 I guess for the record, I should tell who I am. Meriam Nagel: 00:02:44 He was at the East Brother Light over in the East Bay there. Meriam Nagel: 00:02:36 He was there from 1878 until March of 1919.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:02:41 And previous to that, had he been. And your grandfather's name was.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:02:33 And he was there for quite a while, if I recall. Meriam Nagel: 00:02:19 Well, my grandfather had come to take over and I don't know the man's name that he replaced.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:02:28 Pardon me. Meriam Nagel: 00:02:06 Well, that house, the duplex was the original lighthouse dwelling for the station.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:02:15 All right. Meriam Nagel: 00:01:54 It was brought in around the horn, and it was a duplex.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:01:58 Now can you tell us about why your family was living in this house or the houses? And as I remember them telling, that thinking that they may have or might have some windy days and nights, the house was secured by cables that were run down into the cliff.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:01:51 Now did you say this house was brought in? And that was a prefab house that was brought around the horn. And then two generations of the family were born there, and my mother was born in the original home, which was further up the hill, almost on the location of the old Fort San Joaquin. Meriam Nagel: 00:01:08 1963 someplace around there. And that was demolished in what? 19.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:01:06 I think about 1963. And then later in 19 seven, the one that was on the roadside was built. Meriam Nagel: 00:00:55 Two on the top of the hill. Meriam Nagel: 00:00:49 On the hill, the one that was closest to the Fort.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:00:54 How many houses were there? Meriam Nagel: 00:00:35 That was 10 days after the earthquake.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:00:36 You were born 10 days after the earthquake.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:00:43 And I understand now, you were born in one of the houses that used to be behind the Fort? Meriam Nagel: 00:00:34 On April the 28th, 1906.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:00:34 And you were born. I'll tell you that.Ĭharlie Hawkins: 00:00:22 Now, we don't want to put you on the spot, but do you want to tell us what year you were born? Meriam Nagel: 00:00:20 Well, it was a nice place to grow up in. Nagel about her life in and around Fort Point. Meriam Nagel on Cascade Drive in Mill Valley, California. Charlie Hawkins: 00:00:00 This is the 9th of November 1972, and we're here at the home of Ms.

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